I’m mostly just arguing against Cell stomping, I think this match is debatable. Just because it is it’s own alternate movie continuity does not mean the power levels differentiate. Yet we can still scale them to one another using logic. If needed I don’t see what’s stopping him from teleporting Cell away from the big gete star. So if Goku from the movies is taking on threats like Freiza, and Vegeta, but also having to deal with threats like turles or Cooler it only makes sense Goku from the movies would be stronger. 4 Comments. Why couldn’t Cell just completely wipe out multiple of these slow-walking Cooler clones at the same time? Animation How to download SFM Assets Tutorials Dbz animation behind the scenes Nappa When it’s time to watch dragonball Get App . Well he's wrong. But I can’t get past these supposed feats you think exist that put Meta-Coolers over Cell. Using MCU and 616 as a comparison is not even close. Cell would probably beat Frieza and Cooler in their original iterations (even if they transform to their final forms). share. His best statement is his being solar system level, which I’m willing to accept but that should at best put him here at star level (same place Cooler is at). Because they don’t scale to one another, by feats Cooler is at worst on the same level as Cell. Anyone care to explain why they think so? Cell godstomps these guys in all forms fused together. Can we answer the question of how much stronger? I agree with a lot of what you’ve said, and I really feel like you and I could come to some kind of understanding. Kermit the Frog asked Cell. I never said it was as good as Cell’s though Cooler was shown adapting mid blast, Vegeta going all out with Goku simply killed him before he could do it. He got turned into nothing but a head after being sent into the sun. You should totally subscribe to the channel if you haven't already. People of the DevilArtemis universe have met and fought and interacted with Cell, it's seems as if Cell's life couldn't get even worse, right? Better regen, better techniques, and much better stats. Cell turns Meta Cooler into dust. Cooler has no knowledge of who Cell is, and wouldn’t be toying with him like he was at times with Goku. Perfect Cell Vs Kermit Rap Battle 6 months ago 131,384 Views DevilArtemis. I’m not going by scaling as I’ve established that they’re from different canons(Cooler and characters from the main series). Even if the Big Gete Star captured him, why can’t he blow it up the same way Goku and Vegeta did? Here are as many as I could be bothered to post. Considering the Star was destroyed and Cooler lived on idk about that..... Now I’ve already admitted, I don’t think Cell can take out 1,000 Meta-Coolers at the same time. best. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. and don’t match up with the actual canon story but Goku and vegeta weren’t mastered super Saiyans in that movie because it takes place before the cell saga. Other than abusing his regen and Instant Transmission (which Cell has too), what did he actually do that was beyond normal fighting in the series? Like you said the anime is canon to the movies but not the movies to the anime or manga. @majinblackheart: Thanks for unlocking this, I mean I did ask the op to make this thread so I could debate this because I knew everyone would disagree with me that this is debatable. Honestly I feel like he’s going to blow up a few, realize more keep coming from somewhere, find the Big Gete Star, and blow it up since he wouldn’t care about preserving whatever planet it’s attached to or saving anyone that may be trapped inside. Cooler just doesn’t look anywhere near as impressive as you keep suggesting. But to that I say, why not? While omega could stronger we would only evaluate what level they operate based on feats, since they can’t be scaled in universe. Maybe even stronger than 16 and Imperfect Cell. What has Cell done except scale above people who scale above planet busters? Frieza is a Joke after his arc he would just be in the way.. Cooler would lose shortly after cell shoots an energy blast at frieza. @cromulor: mind explaining why? 01:49. If the self destruct function inside Semi-Perfect Cell was strong enough to kill a Mastered Super Saiyan Goku, I feel like the self destruct function inside Perfect Cell could be way more colossal but eh that’s just speculation. Cell vs Todoroki "So, the arena is still empty?" Cooler does have better feats. are you guys sure... geiti star whooped on SS goku and vegeta... and there could be 100s if not 1000s of them. Definitely. 0 comments. This is true they haven’t mastered ssj yet, but I already said that movies and the main series follow a different countinuity, the fact is Cell doesn’t scale above ssj Goku and Vegeta from the movies. Are you serious? But to that I say, why not? Even if the Big Gete Star captured him, why can’t he blow it up the same way Goku and Vegeta did? Having not been born with the same extreme power of his younger brother, Cooler developed an intense sibling rivalry with him, training and ultimately discovering a new transformation with the sole purpose of surpassing and defeating him. The sun being there afterwards just means it wasn’t the sun. Hell, maybe you’re right, maybe Cell can’t last through 1,000 Meta-Coolers, but you aren’t convincing me so far that he can’t at least kill a number of them or blow up the Big Gete Star. But this is an alternate continuity we’re talking about, movie Goku=/= Canon Goku, you can’t scale Cell and cooler anymore than you can scale MCU Thanos to 616 Thor via beating MCU Thor. Perfect Cell Vs Shallot. Can't locate mod who locked this but I say let them debate since a decent argument is being made. Cell Vs. Alastor. According to AT we’re to view the movies as taking place in a dimension separate from the main story of DB. Goku from the main canon and Goku from the movies being both Goku’s from different dimensions with different experiences, battles and threats they faced would make them essentially different versions of the same character. The detonation isn’t instant, iirc it was a full minute before he blew up. I agree with you, the Coolers probably could just Instant Transmission Cell away like Goku did, but Cell would just come back and absorb the knowledge of Instant Transmission just like he did in DBZ. He bumps onto Cell. They’re different versions of the characters entirely, same is the case here. 1- Metal Cooler was taken down by Android Saga SSJ Goku + Vegeta. Reduced to nothing but a small portion of his former self and left to float around in space powerless until the chip that was forming the Big Gete Star happened to come upon what was left of him. Sure, though Cooler’s regen isn’t simply regen. Its worth noting Cooler has instant transmission, which he uses in combat against Goku(which may allow him to escape possibly). Follow 2308. Well the events in the main series still occur in the movies(it’s just not try vice versa) but sure, I don’t want it to seem like I want it both ways so whatever. Meta-Cooler never showed any greater durability feat. So it doesn’t matter. 670 deviations. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. I agree with you, the Coolers probably could just Instant Transmission Cell away like Goku did, but Cell would just come back and absorb the knowledge of Instant Transmission just like he did in DBZ. Like, where is it? Even Imperfect Cell post-absorptions would be too much to handle for Meta Cooler.. Cell has all of Frieza’s techniques (which are most of the same techniques that Cooler uses) and he has all of Goku’s, Piccolo’s, Tien’s, Vegeta’s, and more. 0. Too bad Cell isn’t a solar system buster due to not being Super Perfect Cell. The fact that movie characters also showcase greater feats just seals the deal as I see it, if the movies were canon to the main series scaling would be fine. I'm inclined to believe that given the spikes in power levels in Dragon Ball, no villain from a previous arc could defeat a villain from a later arc. This is very unlike the movie villains, as characters like Cooler, Slug, or Turles don’t exist in the main canon. Cell vs Fazbear Pizzeria was pretty cool to see him deal with those ghostly possibly agony filled animatronics. Just like the difference between Cell and Cooler. Forum Posts. And I don’t have to use in-series scaling. Don‘t even try to say Meta Cooler isn’t more durable than Cooler. Mismatch. Are they probably stronger? And even if you do that’s only Super Perfect Cell and not Perfect Cell prior to his zenkai boost. A quite music was playing as a blond man was walking home carrying Katsu sandwich, but found himself in the arena. What is your personal stance on Dragon Ball’s theatrical films, Sensei? Plus Cell wouldn’t just blow up right off the bat either. And as for this. Super Perfect Cell is a solar system buster. You're one of those emo, silent type, anime clichés. Regardless, to deny Cooler blew up a star after quite literally seeing it go supernova is asinine. 02:50. Only after getting stomped by Goku and using most of his power trying to kill Goku with the attack that destroyed the star. User account menu • PERFECT CELL VS. RIBRIANNE. I’m glad you agree. how much stronger do you actually think Super Perfect Cell is over Perfect Cell? @thewatcherking: point to the place in the thread where it says that Cell isn’t Super Perfect. And I know in earlier comments to other users, you said something like “Cooler’s attack blew up the sun”, but that isn’t even true. Meta Cooler might have a lot of clones, but we’ve never seen how well they do against someone that’s vastly more powerful than them. ** He suffers another one from GT Kid Goku in "Perfect Cell Vs GT Goku" and Goku", which leaves him in a wheelchair. If you don't know who Devilartemis is, he is doing "Perfect Cell VS" fights continuing where TFS left off with The Deadpool one. 840 Views. Yeah, if this all happened Cooler losing would likely happen. best. Also, his regeneration is vastly superior. 4,227 Followers / 0 Following. All of Cell’s techniques are pretty much useless, special beam canon or destructo disk? Also, if this were Ultra Perfect Cell; the brothers will have no chance. Now I’ve already admitted, I don’t think Cell can take out 1,000 Meta-Coolers at the same time. Frieza and cooler. And I know in earlier comments to other users, you said something like “Cooler’s attack blew up the sun”, but that isn’t even true. He’d think to do it just like they did. wtf? The birds were chirping, Zarbon was moaning, and Cell was standing in his arena for no fucking reason. Multi form technique? Super Perfect Cell is a solar system buster. Alright so when I found out about DevilArtemis taking suggestions, I suggested him to do Perfect Cell Vs X.A.N.A. Though I don’t think it would get to that point. Cooler’s attack blew up a star and that’s not debatable, we clearly see him launched into a star which explodes. William is a version of a character named William Dumbar where X.A.N.A. save hide report. "I'm not into RPG's." * AssShove: Perfect Cell sufferers one in his "fight" with Kale (with a pipe). Jul 31, 2019 3 min read. Almost a curbstomp. 7 members in the AnimationFeed community. Cell vs Legomasterlord It was another somewhat peaceful day in the DevilArtemis universe. welll one thing we've never seen cell do is fight the multiple of the z fighter altogether. Even if we assume Cooler is close enough in stats Cell can just self-destruct, regen and get a zenkai boost and there's not much Cooler can do to counter that. He bumps onto Cell. What has Cooler done that’s above anything Cell did? By scaling and statements at best Cell can only be star level, given that Cell stated he could blow up the solar system while Super perfecr(which is stronger than he is here). I take the movies as “stories in a different dimension from the main story of the comic”. Techniques like the Kamehameha and Galick Gun are said to magnify your power. The ones who are too cool to give responses. Because Cooler never told us how much stronger he was and Goku & Vegeta’s difference in power from the previous movie isn’t mentioned. Now I’ve already admitted, I don’t think Cell can take out 1,000 Meta-Coolers at the same time. He has thousands of clones to stop the big gete star from being destroyed, can teleport(and use it in combat unlike Cell did) and is at worst similar in power. As I’ve said it’s adaptation, his body repairs itself and any flaws in his body that allowed him to be damaged are corrected.Meaning he’ll again just be getting harder and harder to beat as the fight goes on. And I’d argue the meta Cooler are as fast, if not faster, than Cell. Cooler by feats is even more powerful than Cell, in the Revenge of Cooler, Goku sent Cooler’s attack into a star which blew up as a result. but Cooler synchronized with the Big Ghetti Star is probably Cell's equal. By: Legomasterlord. Like, where is it? Yang said. As I’ve already shown Cooler is capable of legitimate star busting. Cooler got incinerated by a star. D. DA Fan Episode: Cell Vs. Share to. Log in or sign up to leave a comment log in sign up. So do tell, what of his oh so special techniques will help him here? Who has he ever beat that’s better than Cell or even close to as good? Other than abusing his regen and Instant Transmission (which Cell has too), what did he actually do that was beyond normal fighting in the series? 38 deviations. share. The same Goku couldn’t even beat a suppressed Perfect Cell. A quite music was playing as a blond man was walking home carrying Katsu sandwich, but found himself in the arena. TFS and devilartemis. 347 Do they look stronger? From there you just have to take into consideration he has thousands of clones all operating at the same level(capable of adapting to attacks making him harder to hurt)and I fail to see how this is a stomp. Perfect Cell Vs Cooler Pack Heat. He scales above Freiza so it’s fine. Just because Cell hasnt destroyed a planet does not mean he is stronger than Frieza. So basically everyone who says cooler and freiza wins also Is saying that they can beat broly because cell and broly are kinda equal also hatchiyak. Dub line only, it doesn’t exist in the sub. Also you make it seem as though Cell has feats of tanking supernovas, which he doesn’t. Now you make a fair point, Meta-Cooler is substantially stronger than normal Cooler and Goku & Vegeta are definitely stronger in that movie than Goku was in the first movie. Since we’re looking at these as two completely different canons, then there’s no way of quantifying it. By Katsumi-Kin Watch. Copied; Likes (21) If the self destruct function inside Semi-Perfect Cell was strong enough to kill a Mastered Super Saiyan Goku, I feel like the self destruct function inside Perfect Cell could be way more colossal but eh that’s just speculation. Sure. Cell vs Seto Kaiba part 2 (Raid Shadow Legends ad) "Why is this game everywhere?" There is a fairly large power gap between Meta Cooler and Cell, but the problem is that Meta Cooler can make literal thousands of copies of himself, all with good regen, adaptation and his power level. but if the big gete star is involved , he'd go down. Close • Posted by 8 minutes ago. DBZ characters are notorious for not having feats they should be capable of. The OP is insane. But I guess we can wait for the OP to clarify. Cooler distracts him with a Supernova. Admittedly the only people who Cooler has fought are Vegeta and Goku, but by feats Cooler operates on the same level as Cell or higher as literally the only evidence you can show for cell being able to blow up a Star is his solar system statement while Super Perfect. if its not enough coolers it will produce more. Lol? "No one trying to attack me, be the mother of my children, or trying to waste my time." Cell skillset is better, he's smarter and he has better regen. In the Netflix series they reference the avengers and the events of the movies but the Netflix character do not exist in the movies. DevilArtemis Perfect Cell vs Yoshikage Kira. But I don’t see any feats or scaling suggesting he can whoop a good number of them, fly over to the Big Gete Star, and send it to the great beyond. @thewatcherking: Cell matching a super Saiyan 2 puts him way ahead of Coola who lost to two unmastered super saiyans. You guys realize current 100% Freiza is on god level. literally thousands of clones of himself with the big gete star, Cooler could do it too and you can’t prove cell can survive. 100% Upvoted. You don't see that you're in danger. Is this regular Perfect Cell or Ultra Perfect Cell? So I’m going with what we’ve got. Hell, maybe you’re right, maybe Cell can’t last through 1,000 Meta-Coolers, but you aren’t convincing me so far that he can’t at least kill a number of them or blow up the Big Gete Star. And Cooler after hitting the sun? Perfect Cell Vs Baby Cooler 6 months ago 66,559 Views DevilArtemis. Even if destroying a solar system isn’t 1000x greater than star busting, which is how many clones Cooler can easily make(all of which are star level). That’s honestly being generous, as call has no star level feats and is only stated to be capable of such(by himself) after getting a zenkai boost. If we take Cooler himself appearing in GT into consideration that would mean GT is apart of the same canon as the movies. Yes, but he survived that point blank supernova. even if Cell fights normal SSJ1 if you make 1000s of them cell would still be overwhelm. Golden Perfect Cell stomps. Destroying multiple of them doesn’t equal destroying them all either. DICK-WAD Yoshikage Kira look back a Cell. He’s a way smarter fighter and has way more skill to draw from. Just like the difference between Cell and Cooler. Lol? I think if we strictly look at feats Cooler has(since again, scaling is impossible. Press J to jump to the feed. Perfect Cell kills the both. Cooler wins imo, in a decent fight. The solar flare? Cell: HEY! Because that’s the picture of Super Perfect Cell getting ready to fire the Solar Kamehameha in the starter comment. 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